He is one of the most wanted men of the moment, and no wonder, because José Ceacero, the proclaimed spokesman of the “rebel” Clarisse nuns who have stood up to the Catholic Church and who dares to call the archbishop of Burgos, Mario Iceta, has no problem speaking to the media.

A peculiar man, with a learned speech and clear ideas, who on Tuesday afternoon participated in Más Vale Tarde  and who, from the first minute, Iñaki López and Cristina Pardo knew that the interview was not going to end well. Said and done, the tension even led to the presenter having to stop him.

“I don’t understand how they are justifying that the nuns want to break with the church and now support a man who claims to be a bishop, who lives with an opulence that is clearly contrary to Christian principles,” Ceacero began, before the incredulous gaze of the presenters.

It was at that moment when Cristina Pardo could no longer contain herself before the words of the spokesperson for the nuns. “Do you live with that opulence that the bishop lives with? Do you have a 300 square meter apartment? Do you think getting vaccinated is a mortal sin? Do you think that Franco is our undefeated leader? ”She skipped the one from Pamplona.

Faced with the siege of questions, Ceacero tensed and closed in. “As Paco Umbral said, I came here to talk about my book, and if I don’t talk about my book, I’ll leave.” The presenter, annoyed, soon reprimanded the guest. “You will understand that you do not come to television to talk only about what you want. “He comes to submit to the questions of the people who are on this television program.”

The tension did not cease, although Ceacero decided to remain on the connection. Cristina Pardo continued insisting that it was the Poor Clare nuns who had to justify their decision to leave, making it clear to the guest that “if you do not want to answer, then logically we are not going to ask you about what you call ‘your book’ without being able to ask you again. put a but to what you say.”

Ceacero stirred. “And what do you want me to tell you? “Let me start talking to you about my life?” He said, confused. The spokesperson for the Poor Clares tried to return to the topic, but Pardo continued to insist that he was only seeking to know the justification for the abandonment of the nuns from a Christian point of view.

The spokesperson did not clarify anything about the so-called “heretical” nuns – trying to distance themselves even by talking about Saint Cecilia, the History of the Church and Dogmatic Theology – who have demanded compensation of 1.6 million euros from the archbishopric of Burgos. the arrangements made to the property.