Pedro Sánchez enters the set of El hormiguero at a good pace and I see Pablo Motos more uncomfortable than the President of the Government whom he is going to interview. Pablo Motos knows that some on the networks are asking not to see the program tonight. “You invited a guy you didn’t have to invite, Pablito. Let Txapote see you today!” Dani from Desokupa has just tweeted. This is the yard.

Pedro Sánchez arrives on the set in shirt sleeves -blue jean-, soft shoes without laces and a rainbow bracelet on his right wrist. The president puts on the table everything that he has accumulated after five years of receiving criticism of “sanchismo” (“that seven-headed monster that some have invented,” the president insists) from the “media.” Pablo Motos has tried to find out if he is referring to El hormiguero, without success. But we all know yes. That is why Sánchez refutes the accusation of “fraud” made by a collaborator of the program (Juan del Val) against the president for calling elections on July 23: “those who criticize me for that are the same ones who would have criticized me the same way if they had not been held.” summoned”.

And Catalonia? There will be no more referendums, declared Pedro Sánchez, which he guaranteed with the socialist majority in Catalonia and because “constitutionally it is not possible” (and “politically it is the opposite of what I defend”): he said it with a firmness and certainty that until Pablo Motos breathed relieved and calm.

Pedro Sánchez was verbose, eloquent and talkative to a great extent (Pablo Motos had to ask him to make his answers shorter “to move forward”) and he decided to be determined and display handsomeness and put on medals (“pandemic, war, the fastest growing economy in Europe , almost 21 million affiliated to social security, expanding the welfare state…”), that is, pulling panache and cockiness, which is always quoted.

That is why the audience on the set (someone wrote online that police officers were infiltrated!) spontaneously applauded three or four times (when he said, for example, “gender violence is never justified, never!”). , the most striking when, to a question about pacts, Pedro Sánchez sentenced: “I am going to win the elections, Pablo!”. Before the applause from the set, Pablo Motos kept his face exceptionally serious and his torso hieratic, while Pedro Sánchez smiled and approached him at the table and gesticulated with the ease of sitting in his house.

Last night Pedro Sánchez proved to himself that you have to go to all the television programs without fear. No barriers. Only programs you don’t go to are really hostile. You have to dare to enter Comanche territory, always. The people who see enemy trenches on some television programs and refuse to go are digging sterile trenches in their turn, they are cowardly surrendering and they are giving away the land to the adversary.

Pedro Sánchez has had the honesty in El hormiguero to recognize that the unfortunate law of only yes is yes had undesired results in favor of rapists, and to take responsibility. And he had the courage to apologize to the victims of those criminals. There was more applause when Sánchez claimed feminism as a fight against machismo, although he did not want to criticize the management of Minister Irene Montero. Pablo Motos insisted and was made ugly by not having dismissed Irene Montero for that law or the Secretary of Equality the day he said that “Spanish men are quite rapists”… Pedro Sánchez expressed his disgust with that phrase and explained that he did not remove those members of his cabinet for maintaining government stability and being able to continue moving forward with laws, which he pointed out as his priority…

At the end of the interview, the Trancas and Barrancas ants appeared at the table to ask their funny questions -Falcon included-, and at that point Pedro Sánchez was already the king of the mambo and could indulge in various pirouettes and even recreational acrobatics.