The former president of the government José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero claims to be an “anthropological optimist”, also regarding the knot that monopolizes current Spanish politics. “Yeah. There is going to be an amnesty law; I do not have any doubt. First because it is fair, and because sooner or later it had to happen.”

The conviction of the former socialist leader, in response to the general director of the presidency of the Godó Group, Ramon Rovira, is based on moral, political and democratic principles. He always thought that “the reaction of criminal law that occurred” against those responsible for the process “has to be reviewed sooner or later,” and because he is in favor of “minimal intervention of criminal law in political conflicts.”

Although he respects that there are those who do not agree with the amnesty, Zapatero warned that “the ultimate responsibility lies with politics, with parliaments” and it bothers him that there are those who question the act of sovereignty that involves approving a law in the Cortes, in clear reference to the right and the extreme right.

And despite Junts’ controversial vote against the rule this week in Congress, he reduced “the knot” to a “technical legal issue”, on which he highlights the “responsibility” that the PSOE and the post-convergents have assumed. through the agreement for the investiture of Pedro Sánchez. Therefore, if they fail, they will disappoint “Catalan society, which is wishing there would be an amnesty to talk about other issues,” he warned. But Zapatero persists in his optimism, especially after yesterday’s statements by President Sánchez assuring that the independentistas are not terrorists.

“Neither Junts nor the PSOE are in a position to see who humiliates whom. Nothing of that remains in history and they both know the moment of responsibility they have,” Zapatero argued before a large post-convenient representation that attended a new edition of Foros de Vanguardia that, under the heading ‘Catalonia-Spain: the meeting’, Its central theme was, of course, the future of the amnesty law and the Spanish legislature.

A “technically complicated” law to which “judicial movements” are added, “in parallel,” which, he said, “have a crucial, significant impact on the law.” But the former president avoided criticism of the judicial sphere and used irony: “I believe more in chance than in conspiracy, but chance has not been favorable.”

As a result of these movements, the political debate already covers the definition of terrorism on which the accusation of this crime by the judge of the National Court, Manuel García-Castellón, is based. Here, the former president admitted that there was already a reform in 2015 as a consequence of the impact of jihadism, in which “the concepts were greatly expanded,” but he remarked when asked by the deputy director of La Vanguardia, Lola García, that “ 99% of Catalan society knows that we cannot talk about terrorism in the process, that there are no terrorist independentists.”

Despite the judge’s “worrying” accusation, Zapatero insisted that he has “confidence in the rule of law” because “we all know what terrorism entails,” he recalled.

The former socialist president is now one of the main political leaders of the PSOE. In fact, Sánchez defines him as “an inspiration” in his latest book Tierra Firma, but when asked by the RAC1 delegate in Madrid, Jordi Armenteras, he reduced his role as a mediator that is given to someone who is dedicated to “helping in what I can”. Of course, she was full of praise for the president and his management, ensuring that “we are in the best moment in the history of Spain; “objectively” as a consequence of the economic situation, employment, rights and freedoms…

The former head of the Executive is also placed in the genesis of the process, as a consequence of the reduction of the Statute, for which he has publicly admitted his share of responsibility, but his idea of ??plural Spain has not changed and is now valid. “I defend unity, which in democracy is only possible in the recognition of diversity,” he said, and placed the challenge of the current legislature in “the recognition of the national identity of Catalonia.” It would be about “consolidating a new time, recovering the meaning of the shared project and overcoming everyone’s pain without resentment”