Another tense week has ended, with the beginning of the processing of the amnesty law and the agreement between Socialists and Bildu to wrest the mayor of Pamplona from UPN. Feijóo was yesterday in Pamplona, ??once again in the streets, to protest this pact, and Cuca Gamarra (Logronyo, 1974) received La Vanguardia on Thursday to explain the position of the PP.
What will the PP do from now on?
The PP will be the hope that Spain needs and deserves. The PP will do everything in its power to make this alternative materialize. We will use all the instruments at our disposal to stop it, in the political, legal and citizen field.
We have seen the PP in the street, what will it do from a political and legal point of view?
It has become clear that there is a majority of citizens who do not agree with the drift of Pedro Sánchez, and I think that the president of the Spanish Government has underestimated Spanish society. Politically, we will work not only internally, but from European politics, because when the drift that is taken affects the independence of the judiciary and the separation of powers, we are talking about the erosion of the rule of law, and this is controlled by Europe , which is a guarantee so that what affects the independence of the judiciary, the separation of powers and everything that affects the rule of law cannot be impaired.
Is the PP pinning its hopes on Europe to stop the amnesty law?
First in Spain and the Spaniards, but Europe also has instruments and it has become clear that Europe is disturbed by the drift that is happening in Spain because of Pedro Sánchez, and when Europe is disturbed by something, it acts for slow her down
Does the amnesty make the European elections more important?
Without any doubt. The amnesty makes us Spaniards more aware of the importance of European elections and strong and solid European institutions. Yes, the European elections have become a key to the future of our country, so that Europe can guarantee that no backward steps can be taken internally in the rule of law.
They are talking about preventing the amnesty from taking effect, how?
If there is any possibility that it will not come into force, and it is in the hands of the PP, we will use it, so that the Spanish have no doubt. We will not collaborate for Pedro Sánchez to grant impunity to a political caste because he needs seven votes to remain Prime Minister.
Will there be a meeting between Pedro Sánchez and Núñez Feijóo?
Sánchez is making it more and more difficult, with the things he does, but within the framework of the relationship with the presidency of the Spanish Government, which is beyond who occupies it, there can be a meeting. The only thing Pedro Sánchez is interested in is a photo to whitewash the type of relationships he maintains with other political leaders, and if anyone thinks we will collaborate on this, they are wrong. We are concerned about why, that is why we ask to know the agenda, and to make contributions”.
The PP talks about the rule of law, but maintains its refusal to renew the General Council of the Judiciary, isn’t that a contradiction?
No, because we are defending the rule of law. We have no objection to renewing the CGPJ, but this renewal must advance in more Rule of law. This is not a whim, it is what Europe demands, that the judges of the governing body of the judges are elected by the judges. The PP does not refuse the renewal, but we ask that it be linked to the reform of the election system, so that there is more independence of the judiciary.
Could it be done in parallel, how was it negotiated when the negotiations broke down?
It could be one of the possibilities, but it would have to provide for a change in the system, so that Spain moves forward with more independence from the judiciary.
Has Abascal become a headache for the PP?
We have our autonomy and our political project, which has nothing to do with Vox or Santiago Abascal. We make our own decisions. We are not affected by what others do. The PP won the elections and we want to continue adding, growing, and making the constitutionalists who did not vote for the PP, but other formations, convinced that what we are experiencing today was impossible to happen, find that there is a space we can share in the future millions of Spaniards.
Polls say they’ll need Vox to govern, and he’s their biggest critic.
Well, they are wrong about the opponent, but the PP will not be distracted from the objective we have.
The congress of the PP of Catalonia is still pending. For when?
The most important thing is not the congresses, but winning the elections, being alternative and having a project so that Catalans identify more and more with the PP. With Núñez Feijóo, the PP has become the third force in Catalonia. Today, many constitutionalists who did not vote for us on July 23 feel like orphans, because they have been betrayed by the PSC. We want to unite constitutionalism in Catalonia and continue to grow, resembling Catalan society.
Does the Catalan PP need a change of discourse or a change of leadership, or both?
The PP has grown and is a party with which many Catalans today identify. From serenity, from moderation, but from firmness in demanding the principles of constitutionalism. It is a task to continue working on, and in internal matters we will have to seek unity to continue progressing in this regard. The congress will be held throughout 2024.
Would they support Illa if he wins the election?
The problem is that the PSC has abandoned constitutionalism, it has deceived many Catalans to whom it has said that it would act with its vote in a certain direction and in the end it has thrown itself into the hands of independence.
Will he dispute his votes? What does the PP offer in Catalonia?
The PP continues to be a reliable project, and everyone will know that voting for us is voting for the defense of constitutional values, the defense that there is no division between Catalans, that this is coexistence, good coexistence. We offer Catalonia stability, legal security and with all this, economic growth.