How did it start to form?

As a child I read Ten Bolds by Agatha Christie: adrenaline!

And then?

I saw Clint Eastwood’s Sin perdón when I was twelve: more adrenaline! Then I did Psychology.

what did he learn

To think about the world, to understand reality.

And he founded Mongolia, the magazine.

In 2012, with Darío Adanti and Pere Rusiñol: beastly political satire, frontman, savage…

At what cost?

Threats, disgust: these reactions indicate the success of the satire. The murder of Charlie Hebdo’s colleagues demonstrated the excellence of its satire.

The price is exorbitant.

Ours, 60,000 euros to Ortega Cano for a poster alluding to the fact that he ran over a man with his car. And many insults.

Is he insulting you here?

To me the Nazis and the independents: they insult those who exclude the other. Satire tests the democrat, a test of his limits.

Would it abolish any limits on satire?

Offense to religious feelings.

What is the last thing you satirized?

I have left it I have been a father. It’s not the same as being threatened with death with a child.

What is the moral mask?

Morality operates like a mask that serves to hold a group together: you put it on to help you integrate into the group.

Is there one, moral, or several?

The democratic society is the one that welcomes diverse, plural morals. Theocratic society imposes a single morality by force.

Morality is not internal, then, but external?

Morality is brought on the outside. Today there are many masks that you can choose from.

Every mask is a sham, isn’t it?

it is And imposture is necessary to live in society.

Give me an example.

Good education: it’s a very useful exaggeration.

The rude one says: “I am very sincere”.

He’s an animal, that’s what he is.

What masks would he make fun of?

If you put on a moral mask to be seen, it will be noticed and I will satirize it.

Another example.

You align yourself – for fashion – with the American movement

It’s so easy to click “share” on social media…

It comes out for free. Because of the anxiety of being good, you use the networks… and the networks use you: you fear being pointed out as a “bad person”.

Is there a vaccine against this?

Yes, I respect all people and satirize and refute all ideas and beliefs.

Political fights don’t help…

We like politicians to treat us like children. And when it comes down to it, these politicians send us as soldiers to a war…

We have a war right now.

Despite the war being bad, against Russia we must war, just as in France so many Spanish and French warred against the invading Nazis. This is not a comic!

Does the moral mask come to science?

Those who say that you will be cured if you make an effort wear a mask: this mask blames the patient for his pathology. And you wear it if you pretend to be a “feminist science”…

Nature and morality touch?

You will fall down the ladder whether you like it or not, because the law of gravity works for everyone.

And does morality come to journalism?

It comes when someone talks about “citizen journalism”. How absurd! They are redundant terms just to look good.

And cultural journalism, what?

It is dead, since today works of art are evaluated in the media only from one moral mask or another, these works are not analyzed for themselves.

Any examples?

Right now we are judging some books and movies from years ago based on whether they seem racist or sexist to us today…

We judge past jokes, too.

That TV show, Quién se va a reír: they mine the humor of the past with their moral mask to please a right-thinking audience today.

An audience of good people.

How many times will Millán Salcedo, from Martes y Trece, have to apologize for that joke that we all applauded him for?

A travesty on TV today continues to shock: This is happening…

Any joke is just a joke, no matter how much it parodies the Virgin. But, on the other hand, I can judge that it is broadcast from public television, from power!, from a specific political agenda…

I will try to live without masks.

No, it’s impossible: you better be aware of your mask. Oh, and less posturing and more visiting mother or grandmother in the nursing home.